Saturday, June 20, 2015

Fr John Zuhlsdorf Advises Performing Exorcisms On Entire Nations To Chase Demons Away BUT REFUSES TO PERFORM EXORCISMS ON PLANES HE FLYS ON!

The darksome atmosphere is as a prison to the demons until the judgment day. They carry fire of hell with them wherever they go. The devils besought the Lord not to cast them into the abyss; for they asked for this, deeming it to be a punishment for them to be cast out of a place where they could injure men. Hence it is stated,They besought Him that He would not expel them out of the country. St Thomas Aquinas

The demons of the air together with the Antichrist will perform great wonders on earth and in the atmosphere, and men will become more and more perverted. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879) 
For the time has come when the most astonishing wonders will take place on the earth and in the air. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
Fr John Zuhlsdorf is constantly flying from here to there.  He frequently posts on his blog My View For Awhile. Fr. Z usually then posts a pic of the back of the seat in front of him with the book he will read on the flight:

Frequent flyer Fr. Z then gives his commentary:
My View For Awhile: Shore to Shore Edition
Posted on 30 May 2015 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
It’s time to leave the shore of Lake Superior for the shore of Lake Michigan. My flight is from Marquette to Milwaukee, where I will pick up my car and head back to Madison, perhaps after an errand or two. Before boarding I had a good chat with the rector of a seminary who was in for the ordination yesterday. Read More>>>>
Granted Fr. Z does not post much on St Thomas Aquinas but I would think the man at least reads the Summa once in awhile so he should be familiar with the Summa. And would think he would have read the questions on Demons.

I bring this up because just today Fr Z posts an interesting post on Priests performing exorcisms on a whole entire Nation.

Here is what he had to say:
Remember when Illinois gave the F-finger to God and passed same-sex marriage? Bp. Paprocki of Springfield performed an exorcism over the state. For which he is to be applauded..... Catholics do not shrink away from or excuse exorcisms or pooh-poo them. We embrace them.  Folks, ask your priests to baptize with the older, traditional form.  The Roman Ritual has exorcisms for places, not just for people. Demons can dominate places because of sins that were committed there. And the places don’t have to be one little patch of ground or room or one building..... I invite all the bishops reading this to consider doing an exorcism over their own dioceses, with the older Roman Ritual.   It doesn’t have to be public.   It doesn’t have to be just one. Read More >>>>
OK so frequent flyer Fr. Z admits that all places can be exorcised by a priest. But does Fr Z. advise that even Airplanes should be exorcised considering that all airplanes that fly over 29,050 ft are flying in the region or habitat of demons?

Here is a list of terminology of how devils can play with you:
Infestation is when a demon is attached to a place or an object. For example, a place where one has committed acts of witchcraft, gross sexual sins, murder, or other grave sins may become infested with demons. Also, objects cursed by a practitioner of witchcraft may become infested with demons. In situations like these, the demon has been given rights over the place or object.

Oppression is when a person is physically or sexually assaulted by demons or even when a person undergoes a series of unfortunate events that can't be attributed to natural causes (e.g., Job).

Obsession is when a person experiences obsessive, depressive or sinful thoughts to an extreme degree, which they cannot control. This is not to be confused with various mental illnesses that can mimic some of the symptoms of obsession. Distinguishing between mental illness and demonic obsession is possible, but it requires time, expertise and wisdom.

Possession is when a person has lost control of his physical faculties owing to the control of a demon. Such an individual may be partially or fully possessed. Partial possession is when a person still has some control over his physical faculties. Full possession is when a person is entirely given over to a demon and no longer has any control over his body. A third class of possession is known as perfect possession, and this is when a person has not only conceded his entire body to the demon but also his will. Signs of possession include an extreme aversion to sacred things, speaking in languages the person could not possibly have known, knowledge of hidden objects, etc. The causes of demonic possession include practicing witchcraft, joining the Freemasons, using Ouija boards and living in grave sin, among other causes.
The above list is taken from a group of men who I consider my enemy and who know the devil very well and these men are close friends of Fr. Z. CM 

Now considering that it is very reasonable that demons can infest places then I would think that demons can infest airplanes as well. Maybe many of the tragic air disasters are the result of demonic infestation?  I would think that many of the souls that exhibit bizarre behavior on flights are also too a result of demonic activity on the poor soul.

Again this field is new - no one understands that the habitat of demons is high in the sky - in the darksome atmosphere.

Any if any religious wants to use what little I have written on this matter or just the idea  please by all means expand on it. There is a danger up there we just do not comprehend it yet.

So here is St. Thomas Aquinas on the habitation of Demons:

Summa Th. I EN Qu.64 a.4

Article: 4 Whether our atmosphere is the demons' place of punishment?


1. It would seem that this atmosphere is not the demons' place of punishment. For a demon is a spiritual nature. But a spiritual nature is not affected by place. Therefore there is no place of punishment for demons.

2. Further, man's sin is not graver than the demons'. But man's place of punishment is hell. Much more, therefore, is it the demons' place of punishment; and consequently not the darksome atmosphere.

3. Further, the demons are punished with the pain of fire. But there is no fire in the darksome atmosphere. Therefore the darksome atmosphere is not the place of punishment for the demons.

On the contrary Augustine says (Gn ad lit. iii, 10), that "the darksome atmosphere is as a prison to the demons until the judgment day."

I answer that The angels in their own nature stand midway between God and men. Now the order of Divine providence so disposes, that it procures the welfare of the inferior orders through the superior. But man's welfare is disposed by Divine providence in two ways: first of all, directly, when a man is brought unto good and withheld from evil; and this is fittingly done through the good angels. In another way, indirectly, as when anyone assailed is exercised by fighting against opposition. It was fitting for this procuring of man's welfare to be brought about through the wicked spirits, lest they should cease to be of service in the natural order. Consequently a twofold place of punishment is due to the demons: one, by reason of their sin, and this is hell; and another, in order that they may tempt men, and thus the darksome atmosphere is their due place of punishment. Now the procuring of men's salvation is prolonged even to the judgment day: consequently, the ministry of the angels and wrestling with demons endure until then. Hence until then the good angels are sent to us here; and the demons are in this dark atmosphere for our trial: although some of them are even now in hell, to torment those whom they have led astray; just as some of the good angels are with the holy souls in heaven. But after the judgment day all the wicked, both men and angels, will be in hell, and the good in heaven.

Reply to Objection:

1. A place is not penal to angel or soul as if affecting the nature by changing it, but as affecting the will by saddening it: because the angel or the soul apprehends that it is in a place not agreeable to its will.

2. One soul is not set over another in the order of nature, as the demons are over men in the order of nature; consequently there is no parallel.

3. Some have maintained that the pain of sense for demons and souls is postponed until the judgment day: and that the beatitude of the saints is likewise postponed until the judgment day. But this is erroneous, and contrary to the teaching of the Apostle (2Co 5,1): "If our earthly house of this habitation be dissolved, we have a house in heaven." Others, again, while not admitting the same of souls, admit it as to demons. But it is better to say that the same judgment is passed upon wicked souls and wicked angels, even as on good souls and good angels.

Consequently, it must be said that, although a heavenly place belongs to the glory of the angels, yet their glory is not lessened by their coming to us, for they consider that place to be their own; in the same way as we say that the bishop's honor is not lessened while he is not actually sitting on his throne. In like manner it must be said, that although the demons are not actually bound within the fire of hell while they are in this dark atmosphere, nevertheless their punishment is none the less; because they know that such confinement is their due. Hence it is said in a gloss upon Jc 3,6: "They carry fire of hell with them wherever they go." Nor is this contrary to what is said (Lc 8,31), "They besought the Lord not to cast them into the abyss"; for they asked for this, deeming it to be a punishment for them to be cast out of a place where they could injure men. Hence it is stated, "They [Vulg. 'He'] besought Him that He would not expel them [Vulg. 'him'] out of the country" (Mc 5,10).

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